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Here are some question that I heard of this last weekend I thought some of you may answer these better then me.

The questions.

Why are Christian the most judgmental people IN THE WORLD?

How can people that claim to be of god lie, cheat and steal there way to wealth?(AKA TV CHRISTIANS)

Why do Christians Hate President Obama? Me I do not: I like the man, I do not agree with everything.

Also how can a Christians hate some one? This is a good question and this board has a lot of this going around.

I was in mixed company at a get together this weekend and we talked in length about many of these items. I am still remembering some more I will post them as well.

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Bravo! Well said Brother.
Bro Cope said:
Why are Christian the most judgmental people IN THE WORLD?
The assumption made is that judging is wrong. It is not, nor can it be wrong

Many Christians think that judging is wrong. This could not be farther from the truth. There are only two kinds of judging that are not allowed. The first is in Matthew 7:1-5 where it says:

Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


It is clear from this context that Jesus is not talking about pine 2x4's. He is talking about sin. Notice that He does not disallow judgment. All He does is place a restriction on judgment. If you want to judge, first deal with the issue of sin in your own life. Once you have dealt with sin in your own life, you can judge another. You can see clearly to remove the mote that is in your brother's eye.

The other place is in Romans

Ro 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


In this passage, we find the Romans judging on the basis of personal preference rather than on what God has revealed as sin. There is only one law-giver, and we are not Him. Our judgments must not be based upon the mistaken belief that God's judgments are too harsh. That leads to not judging, something that God hates. A study of the judgments of Israel would show that whenever Israel would STOP judging righteously, God would turn them over to their enemies.

Neither should our judgment be based upon the mistaken notion that God's judgment is not strict enough. The conflict between the vegetarians and the meat eaters in Romans had both sides thinking that God did not go far enough in establishing His Law. He should have said something about eating meat or only vegetables.

God is always angered when out judgments wind up being a secret rejection of what He has said, and an effort to substitute our own standard to supplant His.

But for a certainty, God does not hate judgment. Is 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment

Jesus also loved judgment, as the Father loves judgment. When He upbraided the religious leaders, He upbraided them for NOT judging.

Lu 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


To His disciples he commands that we judge righteously:

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

In fact, we must learn how to judge. We will be given the task of judging the world. How will we do that if we are not practiced in judging righteous judgment?

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?


There are over 670 references to judging in the Bible. Over and over and over again, God tells us to judge righteously.

Not Judging is a sin!

A good chapter to read concerning how God views judgment would be Is 59. In that chapter God is laying out the moral decadence of Israel. Five times in that chapter alone, God places the lack of judgment high on the list of the sins of Israel. The subject of judgment is a deeply misunderstood doctrine of the church, and I think the reason is because she does not want to be judged herself. Remember that as we judge, we will be judged. The measure we use will be used on us. But for the righteous man, that is not a problem. A righteous man does not fear being judged, because he is righteous.

Bro Cope
Bro. Cope said:

"Mt 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

It is clear from this context that Jesus is not talking about pine 2x4's. He is talking about sin. Notice that He does not disallow judgment. All He does is place a restriction on judgment. If you want to judge, first deal with the issue of sin in your own life. Once you have dealt with sin in your own life, you can judge another. You can see clearly to remove the mote that is in your brother's eye."


There is another facet to this that I personally believe to be true.
When Jesus spoke these words, He was saying that those who were judging another of a particular sin, were guilty of the same sin themselves; so before they attempt to judge someone else of (the same) sin, they need to repent of it themselves.
For me, this is backed by Christ's words:
" Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

Again, this is my own belief and I do not expect others to live by my convictions/beliefs.
Sadly...we are Christians who are not yet perfected. I think in our human-ness we fall short of God's plan everyday, and in many ways. We have parts of us that are still like Adam in the book of Genesis. God IF ALLOWED, will take all of that Adam-like-ness, and turn it into Christ-like-ness.....Christians will always be flawed. We can never fully obtain 100% of God's nature....but hopefully we are trying.

Christians do not have the right to judge...although they do have the right to show a sinning Christian the word and what it says. Christians do not have the right to judge a non-believer...instead they have a responsibility to restore them to Christ.

Christians can't hate...but they do, they are flawed and God will perfect them...IF He is given a chance.

Obama is a nice, but he is surely NOT my choice. I don't hate him, but I strongly dislike alot about him, and his choices. As Christians I do not think we should endorse his lack of morals by voting for him to lead this country. When we endorse his poor morals we are saying...I want those morals in the nation. I would love to see Christians vote for leaders who will uphold solid morals.

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