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 America is as much an economic phenomenon as it is a nation. It is built on a system whose driving force is the profit motive. Our economy blatantly rewards greed. In classic economic theory greed is good. A person who is motivated by greed will create, as unintended byproducts, benefits for everyone, such as employment and the development of new goods and services. Let the rich get richer, the saying goes, and the benefits will "trickle down" to the rest of us.

 Under a pure capitalistic system the government keeps hands off and allows the market to decide how the money flows. The problem is, as we have found in this era of deregulation, the money flows to the top.

Tampering with the market system to redistribute the wealth or assure that the poor are protected is labeled "socialism."

By these standards Jesus was a socialist.

 Jesus spoke remarkably often about wealth and poverty. To the poor he said, "Blessed are you poor, for yours is the kingdom of God," (Luke's version). To the rich he said, "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth," and "go, sell what you have, and give to the poor." When the rich turned away from him because they couldn't follow his command he observed, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

For Jesus, helping the poor and the outcast is not optional: it is the essence of what it means to love God. In the parable of the last judgement he welcomes the righteous into heaven saying, "I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me." When the righteous answered that they didn't recall doing any of these things, he said, "as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."

We are to "forgive our debtors" and "give to every one who begs from you." But don't handouts contribute to moral decay? Jesus was more concerned about the moral decay in those who are so attached to their wealth that they would hoard it for themselves. In our better moments most of us recognize that giving does not corrupt. We sacrifice to give good things to our children and do our best to provide them with years of carefree existence as they grow up. We do this to give them a sense of security and a foundation for growth. People who have been devastated by misfortune, or for whatever reason are down and out, may need even more help because they may not have what it takes to recover on their own.

 What's wrong with trickle-down economics? Every time I hear that phrase I think of the story Jesus told about a rich man and the beggar Lazarus "who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table." Needless to say, the story ends with Lazarus going to a better place than the rich man. Trickle down theory is about crumbs. Those who say we should settle for crumbs would make us a nation of beggars.

Greed may be a driving force for the economy, but Jesus saw it is as destructive to community. Greed may leave a few crumbs behind for the poor, and it may do some unintended good, but it destroys compassion. Compassion is in short supply in our society today where workers are being downsized in the name of efficiency, prisons are being expanded to insulate society from its underclasses, and the middle class is abandoned by the rich to fight it out with the poor for the table scraps.

Jesus' response to economic inequality is very direct: we are to share the wealth. I once heard a talk about world hunger. The point was that we produce far more food than is needed to feed everyone on earth. The problem is not lack of supply; it is maldistribution. Many people are simply too poor to buy the food they need. This talk gave me a new perspective on the story of the feeding of the 5000. Jesus was out in the desert followed by a huge crowd. The disciples were concerned that it was getting late in the day and they didn't have enough food to feed the crowd. My suspicion is that Jesus sensed there was plenty of food in the crowd, but whereas some had plenty, others had nothing. Sensing an opportunity to make a point, he instructed his disciples to take their five loaves and two fish and distribute them freely to the crowd. By the sheer audaciousness of this act he induced those with food to join him in giving it away. The result is everyone was fed that day with twelve baskets left over. If Jesus simply did a magic trick and made food appear, what's the point? Whoopee! He's divine. He's not like us. But if, by his act of giving away all he had in the face of the overwhelming crowd, he demonstrated the power of a sharing community, he achieved a real miracle! Sharing is a lesson we especially need to learn today.

 

Thank you for your time. James

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Hi James,

I didn't mean for that to sound negative on vitamins and minerals. It is a choice. I choose to take them and you choose not to. It is certainly alright for both of us. I tried to find a tutorial that had some depth in simplicity to post on vitamins's roles as co enzymes and minerals' roles as catalysts and their interrelationships with protein.

The guy whose wife has breast cancer, I told them about Dr. Kelly and being given two months to live with pancreatic cancer. He lived for 30 more years and wrote "One Man's Answer To Cancer" It's on the internet. Wall Street Pharmaceutical led attacks on him, call him a Quack, but their survival rate for pancreatic cancer is 60 days. They were afraid to even look at it. So I just tried to plant a seed and leave it be.

I just choose to study nutrition and take supplements. It probably won't change my departure date if it is preset. But my energy is optimal. I don't feel run down or depressed. If I remarry, I will have to work with her to find a diet we can both live with.

One would have to work at overdosing on the fat soluble vitamins and it is nest to impossible to OD on the water soluble ones. It's far easier to OD on drugs. One could definitely get too high of levels of certain minerals, particularly Iron if they megadosed. But most of the populace is so undernourished, they have no fear of that.

If I could only take one supplement, it would be digestive enzymes. Enzymes are a catch 22. It takes enzymes to make enzymes, so once the body is so deficient, it has to be jump started. Supplements or Power Juicing is best, but a diet high in raw fruits and veggies went go a long way.

I just wanted to close on a more cordial note. It is so okay to disagree, as long as we affirm the person and disagree with the subject matter. Agree to disagree.

Have a great day James,

Mark

 

  Hi Mark,

 I wrote a long bit,I deleted it.  You can stick to your folklore remedies I'll stick to science.

 

You should look into eating Hemp seeds for your diet.(The Most Nutritionally Complete Food Source In The World )If ever a plant was made by a god this is it. It contains all the essential amino acids (digestive enzymes) and essential fats. omega 3 and omega 6.

http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempseed1.html

 

 

 I will say this  Dr. Kelley was a dentist not a medical doctor.

 You should read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Donald_Kelley

 

It's hard to agree to disagree with someone that throws out so much of what science says.

  You have a great day too.

James

 

 

PS. You can patent how a natural chemical is synthetically  made.  

 

 

 


Mark Edward Kroger said:

Hi James,

I didn't mean for that to sound negative on vitamins and minerals. It is a choice. I choose to take them and you choose not to. It is certainly alright for both of us. I tried to find a tutorial that had some depth in simplicity to post on vitamins's roles as co enzymes and minerals' roles as catalysts and their interrelationships with protein.

The guy whose wife has breast cancer, I told them about Dr. Kelly and being given two months to live with pancreatic cancer. He lived for 30 more years and wrote "One Man's Answer To Cancer" It's on the internet. Wall Street Pharmaceutical led attacks on him, call him a Quack, but their survival rate for pancreatic cancer is 60 days. They were afraid to even look at it. So I just tried to plant a seed and leave it be.

I just choose to study nutrition and take supplements. It probably won't change my departure date if it is preset. But my energy is optimal. I don't feel run down or depressed. If I remarry, I will have to work with her to find a diet we can both live with.

One would have to work at overdosing on the fat soluble vitamins and it is nest to impossible to OD on the water soluble ones. It's far easier to OD on drugs. One could definitely get too high of levels of certain minerals, particularly Iron if they megadosed. But most of the populace is so undernourished, they have no fear of that.

If I could only take one supplement, it would be digestive enzymes. Enzymes are a catch 22. It takes enzymes to make enzymes, so once the body is so deficient, it has to be jump started. Supplements or Power Juicing is best, but a diet high in raw fruits and veggies went go a long way.

I just wanted to close on a more cordial note. It is so okay to disagree, as long as we affirm the person and disagree with the subject matter. Agree to disagree.

Have a great day James,

Mark

 

My bet is you NEVER had a heart attack. Heartburn far more probable.

Mark Edward Kroger said:

Hi James,

You're right about taxol. I was talking to a friend this morning and his wife is taking the synthesized version for breast cancer. It has to be a little different from the natural thing since you can't patent a natural compound. Just think she is paying thousands of dollars for something she could be getting for free. Just being silly, but it shows me they sure are making a lot of money off of nature.

The taxol is in the roots, stems, needles and seeds, but not the aril-fleshly cone or berry. Several species of birds in Europe eat the aril and swallow the seeds and it is through the birds' droppings, the Yews get spread all over Europe. I like the berries, they are good for me and I will continue to eat them each fall. I eat the crab apples, also.

Wall Street Marketing at its finest. No one needs vitamins or minerals, just eat a good diet. We are the most overfed, under nourished population on the planet. One of the highest in Obesity, Diabetes, Cancer, Heart Disease, the Inflammation Neurologic Diseases and a host of others. Pellagra and Scurvy would be drup required diseases if Wall Street Pharmaceuticals could have gotten a hold on the Media in time. 

The supervisor that called that morning, told me about three weeks later, he never saw someone recover from a heart attack so fast in his life. It's because I didn't add insult to injury. I gave my body the raw materials it needed, eliminated the inputs causing me my problems and it  did just fine. It is programmed to make the repairs it needs, if the raw materials there and I don't shut it down with profit oriented alchemy.

But more important than all of that, James, is I appreaciate and love my Lord. He made my day awesome and I always want Him to know that I know that with Him, I get it all and without Him, my life would be like those who think "Life sucks and then you die." I look forward to every moment of every day and it is because of Him.

Have a great day, James,

Mark

 

 

 

 

Hi James,

Thanks for the reply. Whether it was or wasn't a heart attack, I had no fear of leaving here. That's the bottom line for each of us.

Your definition of Science and mine are not the same, but I so agree, you have to go by your choices and I will continue with mine.

Yes, Dr. Kelly was a Dentist with a good business and never had any desire to get into Integrated Physiology, Health Science or Nutrition. He developed Pancreatic Cancer and tried to go mainstream and they sent him home to die.

He began study, found Dr.Beard's Work and began Clinical Trials..on himself. 30 years later, he wrote the last chapter to his book, One Man's Answer To Cancer.

Here is that link again, http://thereflectionhouse.com/Nutrition_and_Cancer.htm Dr. Robert Good of Sloane-Kettering tried to get Dr.Kelly's work published and here is a quote, "Robert Good was at the top of his profession: President of Sloan-Kettering, father of modern immunology, and did the first bone marrow transplant in history. Yet, he couldn't get it published," Gonzalez says. "He couldn't even get a single case report published.

They are not going to let anyone kill the goose laying the 200 billion dollar golden egg. Life is choice.

But in a thousand years none of this will matter, James. We will know as we are known.

Hope your day is awesome,

Mark

 

 

 

 

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