Is it WRONG to tell someone not to abort if they don't feel it is wrong?

Someone posed this in another discussion... I am moving the conversation to this new thread so that that discussion can stay on topic. Mike M said:

Now here is where I stand on this issue, I am 26 and have three children, my wife is 25 we were young when our oldest was born. Abortion was never a topic we discussed.
So as for age I think that is an excuse.

Now, I have shared my view on this with many forum members which is I please hold the stones. I am not Pro Choice, however I am Anti-Judge. I feel as a man that I have no right to tell any woman (other then my wife) that what she feels is wrong. Now I do feel that it is WRONG!

I think the main reason abortion is becoming more "cultural acceptable" is because too many people see a single mother with 2 children and make a comment like " my tax money is taking care of those kids" That is a problem as well for another thread.(this happens WAY WAY too much in tioga county) Instead of looking and saying wow she is doing a good job .
The second biggest reason is GUYS!! Yes I said it, guys are ready to play but then will run away when they hear those three words! This alone can lead to woman making quick and irrational decisions.

Mike... I'd like to comment on this that you wrote... I am not Pro Choice, however I am Anti-Judge. I feel as a man that I have no right to tell any woman (other then my wife) that what she feels is wrong. Now I do feel that it is WRONG! Last night we saw a movie, The Changeling. It was about a mother who's 9 year old son went missing. The corrupt police insisted that another boy was her son. As it turned out, a local man was a serial killer. His accomplice identified her son as one of those boys the serial killer murdered. It was a very disturbing true story. Right after I saw the movie, I read your post, above. It took a long time to get to sleep as these things ran around in my mind last night. We look at the serial killer as a monster. He killed 20 boys.. He was hung - capital punishment. Yet, every day doctors murder babies. Little ones and big ones. At the bottom of this post is a picture of the baby currently in the womb of one of my friends. Babies like that are killed every day. Legally. By professional killers, also known as doctors. With the contest of their mother. Thinking of this causes me the same pain as the movie caused. It is the same pain that prevented me from finishing the movie, Schlineder's list. How can you say this? I am not Pro Choice, however I am Anti-Judge. I feel as a man that I have no right to tell any woman (other then my wife) that what she feels is wrong. Now I do feel that it is WRONG! Abortion isn’t about telling a woman what she can do with her own body. Abortion is about what a mother can do with her baby's body. What would you say to those who killed the Jews? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell them it was wrong? What would you say to the serial killer who murdered those 20 boys? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell him it is wrong? What would you say to the abortion doctor who, for his hard day’s work ends the life of 10, 20 or 30 babies? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell him it is wrong? Look into the face of my friends baby. Babies, just like this are being murdered every day…

How can we stand by and “non-judgmentally” do nothing as babies are murdered? Mike M said:

Finally some one asks the million dollar question. Thank You
Before I answer you question I want you too know that I know some one dear too me that hand an abortion and
it has really affect my outlook on this topic. And she had one because a MAN told her what too. This woman has since made it very clear that she was confused and made a life changing decisions that she has to live with however it gave me insight that I never ever had.

What would you say to those who killed the Jews? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell them it was wrong? Here is the difference for this one this is a Criminal act defined by the LAW of the Land. (NOW ABORTION SHOULD BE) So it would be easy for this to be stopped and it is easy to say it is wrong.

What would you say to the serial killer who murdered those 20 boys? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell him it is wrong? Once again see above

What would you say to the abortion doctor who, for his hard day’s work ends the life of 10, 20 or 30 babies? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell him it is wrong? Tell some one they are wrong and passing judgement on the people that do it are to very different things. Also my issue is with telling the women what they are doing is wrong. I think it is very very different for a woman, my wife and I have this same disagreement because she is a mother and as are you So it is unthinkable for you both to sit by and do/say nothing. As for me and men I think that we walk a very fine line on the subject, it is clear that men can stand on either side of the line. I stand on the side that says Yes this wrong however it is a decisions that she has to live with ever single day for the rest of HER life. That is all I am saying.

Juanita, Our Voice must speak out against evil! If the good doesn't take a stand, then who will? I believe that if people who vote to keep the law of Abortion Bills active, they don't need to be judged by us for they are already judged and their own actions have proven it! They stand guilty with the blood of the innocent unborn and they are just as guilty as if they themselves who preformed the abortions! Innocent babies aren't given a voice, they aren't given the vote to cast. Abortion is as satanic as it gets and God is angry...Divine judgment came upon those in the past who offered their innocent Children to the god of Molech to be burned in the fire. And unless this nation of people repents for such crimes against God, Judgment is pending and time running out! Women cry I want rights over my own body but what about the rights of the unborn? They do not realize that the laws they bring upon themselves is design to let the Government have it's own control over them, yet they say, they don't want the Government telling them what to do or shouldn't do.. If this nation were to be Judged by the votes it held for the one who allows for Abortions. Then it has now been decided that Judgment is coming..Isn't it funny how you have the very woman whom the first law of abortion was established, now a Christian and says that she was used by Lawyers and Judges in order to bring these laws about. She now uses her voice to speak out against Abortions knowing that it is a major Sin against the Almighty.. I believe that if proves that you are a true child of God when you actions and lifestyle are righteous and on God standard of moral principles. Those who say they are Christians and vote to kill the unborn or homosexuals to marry, are not Christians but are wolves in sheep's clothing and are awaiting divine Judgment just as the five foolish Virgins who thought they were ready to meet the Groom but were low on OIL, and were turned away! We have millions of foolish Virgins today...God forgives those who has committed any and all sin and will not hold it against them and women who have committed abortions need to know that love and forgiveness is available to them and Christians do not need by any means to cast condemnation against them but let them know that God's open arms are waiting wide for them.. The message of the love of God and the power of the Cross will do more than telling people they are going to hell... blessings

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Destinys Prince March 9, 2009 at 11:15am

Juanita, Our Voice must speak out against evil! If the good doesn't take a stand, then who will? I believe that if people who vote to keep the law of Abortion Bills active, they don't need to be judged by us for they are already judged and their own actions have proven it! They stand guilty with the blood of the innocent unborn and they are just as guilty as if they themselves who preformed the abortions! Innocent babies aren't given a voice, they aren't given the vote to cast. Abortion is as satanic as it gets and God is angry...Divine judgment came upon those in the past who offered their innocent Children to the god of Molech to be burned in the fire. And unless this nation of people repents for such crimes against God, Judgment is pending and time running out! Women cry I want rights over my own body but what about the rights of the unborn? They do not realize that the laws they bring upon themselves is design to let the Government have it's own control over them, yet they say, they don't want the Government telling them what to do or shouldn't do.. If this nation were to be Judged by the votes it held for the one who allows for Abortions. Then it has now been decided that Judgment is coming..Isn't it funny how you have the very woman whom the first law of abortion was established, now a Christian and says that she was used by Lawyers and Judges in order to bring these laws about. She now uses her voice to speak out against Abortions knowing that it is a major Sin against the Almighty.. I believe that if proves that you are a true child of God when you actions and lifestyle are righteous and on God standard of moral principles. Those who say they are Christians and vote to kill the unborn or homosexuals to marry, are not Christians but are wolves in sheep's clothing and are awaiting divine Judgment just as the five foolish Virgins who thought they were ready to meet the Groom but were low on OIL, and were turned away! We have millions of foolish Virgins today...God forgives those who has committed any and all sin and will not hold it against them and women who have committed abortions need to know that love and forgiveness is available to them and Christians do not need by any means to cast condemnation against them but let them know that God's open arms are waiting wide for them.. The message of the love of God and the power of the Cross will do more than telling people they are going to hell... blessings
debrah March 9, 2009 at 6:39am

Mike you say tht you will not tell a woman what to do with her life...but the life that is most affected by abortion is the life of the child...is the life of the child that someone else is deciding to end.. for the woman it is a choice albeit not a choice easily made but nonetheless she is making a choice...I believe that we should have more places such as birthright who offer to help the women with the choice of carrying the baby to term...I certainly think we need to look at more ways that we could help the woman when she decides to choose life...things such as how will she financially be able to care for a child (we need to be willing to help)...continue education so that there will come a time when they can provide for those needs...find loving homes if adoption is the choice of the parent..there are many other ways that we should be a help that off of the top of my head I am not thinking about right now...We should also reach out in compassion to those parents who are suffering the consequences of opting for abortion...there is so much we could do to support life...
Juanita March 9, 2009 at 6:31am

Sorry, I had to edit the thread... someone pointed out that the photo above had a name & I had to change...

Yes, I agree... people make terrible choices and it causes lots of suffering. I feel bad, too. And, in that sense, I don't 'judge' them & maybe that was what you were trying to say... "Judge" can have different shades of meaning. In regard to making wrong choices... we are all in the same boat on that one. We have all made choices that were wrong and had consequences. :-(

One comment on Hitler...
On Hitler...
I said: What would you say to those who killed the Jews? You want to be anti-judgmental. But, could you tell them it was wrong?
You said: Here is the difference for this one this is a Criminal act defined by the LAW of the Land. (NOW ABORTION SHOULD BE) So it would be easy for this to be stopped and it is easy to say it is wrong.

Actually, the LAW of the Land was to kill the Jews. People risked their lives saving Jews & violating the law of the Land. And, many of those who took the risk were caught and killed.

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