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 America is as much an economic phenomenon as it is a nation. It is built on a system whose driving force is the profit motive. Our economy blatantly rewards greed. In classic economic theory greed is good. A person who is motivated by greed will create, as unintended byproducts, benefits for everyone, such as employment and the development of new goods and services. Let the rich get richer, the saying goes, and the benefits will "trickle down" to the rest of us.

 Under a pure capitalistic system the government keeps hands off and allows the market to decide how the money flows. The problem is, as we have found in this era of deregulation, the money flows to the top.

Tampering with the market system to redistribute the wealth or assure that the poor are protected is labeled "socialism."

By these standards Jesus was a socialist.

 Jesus spoke remarkably often about wealth and poverty. To the poor he said, "Blessed are you poor, for yours is the kingdom of God," (Luke's version). To the rich he said, "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth," and "go, sell what you have, and give to the poor." When the rich turned away from him because they couldn't follow his command he observed, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

For Jesus, helping the poor and the outcast is not optional: it is the essence of what it means to love God. In the parable of the last judgement he welcomes the righteous into heaven saying, "I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me." When the righteous answered that they didn't recall doing any of these things, he said, "as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."

We are to "forgive our debtors" and "give to every one who begs from you." But don't handouts contribute to moral decay? Jesus was more concerned about the moral decay in those who are so attached to their wealth that they would hoard it for themselves. In our better moments most of us recognize that giving does not corrupt. We sacrifice to give good things to our children and do our best to provide them with years of carefree existence as they grow up. We do this to give them a sense of security and a foundation for growth. People who have been devastated by misfortune, or for whatever reason are down and out, may need even more help because they may not have what it takes to recover on their own.

 What's wrong with trickle-down economics? Every time I hear that phrase I think of the story Jesus told about a rich man and the beggar Lazarus "who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table." Needless to say, the story ends with Lazarus going to a better place than the rich man. Trickle down theory is about crumbs. Those who say we should settle for crumbs would make us a nation of beggars.

Greed may be a driving force for the economy, but Jesus saw it is as destructive to community. Greed may leave a few crumbs behind for the poor, and it may do some unintended good, but it destroys compassion. Compassion is in short supply in our society today where workers are being downsized in the name of efficiency, prisons are being expanded to insulate society from its underclasses, and the middle class is abandoned by the rich to fight it out with the poor for the table scraps.

Jesus' response to economic inequality is very direct: we are to share the wealth. I once heard a talk about world hunger. The point was that we produce far more food than is needed to feed everyone on earth. The problem is not lack of supply; it is maldistribution. Many people are simply too poor to buy the food they need. This talk gave me a new perspective on the story of the feeding of the 5000. Jesus was out in the desert followed by a huge crowd. The disciples were concerned that it was getting late in the day and they didn't have enough food to feed the crowd. My suspicion is that Jesus sensed there was plenty of food in the crowd, but whereas some had plenty, others had nothing. Sensing an opportunity to make a point, he instructed his disciples to take their five loaves and two fish and distribute them freely to the crowd. By the sheer audaciousness of this act he induced those with food to join him in giving it away. The result is everyone was fed that day with twelve baskets left over. If Jesus simply did a magic trick and made food appear, what's the point? Whoopee! He's divine. He's not like us. But if, by his act of giving away all he had in the face of the overwhelming crowd, he demonstrated the power of a sharing community, he achieved a real miracle! Sharing is a lesson we especially need to learn today.

 

Thank you for your time. James

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Hi Paul,

Good to meet you. Thanks for the reply, to which I say Amen. The Lord is using Juanita's wonderful website to plant a lot of seeds. We won't know how many seeds got planted and eventually took root in those wondering in off the streets until we get Home.

For me, the Lord is using these forums as the Refiner's Fire as He cleans out a lot of self that keeps getting in His way. I like James and I hope he doesn't leave. I need him as the Lord develops in me, the fruit of an agape spirit.

The Lord does all things well...

Thanks Paul,

Mark

Freedomist said:

Mark,

 

My motivation here is the same as yours, I think, to share the Word with a nonbeliever,  not to bury him, though it is difficult in the flesh not to allow yourself to be provoked into side arguments that steer you away from the Word and back into the human world, lost in endless details and debate, which, I am sure, anyone seeking to shield themselves from the Truth of Christ would revel in.

 

I am not interested in proving to James that Obamacare is good or bad, but rather that not accepting and following the living Word, Christ, is tragically disastrous.  If James can consign Christ to a humanistic, godless philosophy like Socialism, he can (only in a delusional way) escape the judgment and truth of the Lord.  This is a battle worth debating, for we are then planters of the Word in a fallow field.  Whether the seed grows or not, whether we harvest or not, James has been given the seed, the knowing of the Word.

 

Paul

Hey Freedomist,

 

Spot on,   How would Jesus vote on national healthcare hmm? IMO (in my opinion) Jesus would fully support  a healthcare plan that covered everyone.

  Jesus healed hundreds of people who were poor and suffering. Whether the people believed in Him or not, Jesus had no condition to healing someone who was sick.

Freedomist said:

How did this thread turn into a debate about present-day healthcare?  I thought it was about James' assumption that Jesus was a socialist.

I, like to frame thoughts in a way that dives down to simplicity.

 

I think James' conversation boils down to two questions...

 

Who (what) is in the center and who do we serve?

 

How we answer those questions determine everything about the lives we live and the society we build, these determine our philosophy of life.   There are of course, overlaps in philosophies - but at some root level:  you can't have it both ways.

 

We can either serve God.

 

Or man (if I serve myself, I am in this camp.)

 

The US is migrating toward a human centric way of life.   If you are in that camp, you should be delighted with the philosophy, the outcome is also, and unfortunately visible.   :-)

Hi James,

I am not against providing for those that are less fortunate. I contribute to that all I can. I can see where hospitals are life savers for accident, injury, venom bites, parasites, etc. For me, I would like a catastrophic plan just in case I had an auto accident or something like that.

I am against our Wall Street led, government enforced, silencing of those who would teach us true health through nutrition and then equating health care with life long sickness control through profit oriented alchemy.

If you opened that paper, you would have seen where a doctor is curing incurable cancers through nutrition and they are doing their best to silence him because it would detract from Wall Street's bottom line.

This not about you or me or who can win a verbal sparring match. It's about Wall Street equating sick and dying people as Wall Street bottom line.

But there is another side to this. When the Lord saved me, I asked Him to save my family and to keep them from sickness and trouble. His answer was, "And how would I do that?"

Very few people wake up and say, "The third thing on my list today, is to receive Christ." For most of us, it was, "Help me, Jesus!" So while Satan is using the greed factor to entice, the Lord is using it to bring glory to His Name.

I work for the Lord out of gratitude for what He used others to do for me all my life and I also am looking forward to the rewards-the eternal dividends, a small investment here will reap.

It is impossible to have a utopian concept come to life in fallen man. The overriding factors of my fallen nature are lust and pride. They can be mixed in varying ways>selfishness, jealousy, etc. My natural man says, "I am the center of all things."

Scripture teaches we wrestle not with flesh and blood, so I see that Satan and his emerssaries tempt my natural man to distort that which sounded good on paper.

Socialism in practice says, "What's yours is mine." An agape spirit says, "What's mine is yours."

Satan's goal on earth is not to build a utopia. It is to draw men away from Christ.

"There is only one life and it will soon be past. Only what's done by, for and through the Lord Jesus Christ will last."

When I die, no one will ask me if I voted for Socialized Medicine. The only question that will be asked is, "Did you receive Christ as Savior? What did you do with Christ?

I will continue to study health. I bought an exercise machine for my lower back, I will continue to use it. But those things are temporal. When I die, I will leave this body here.

I have read wonderful stories about people whose lives were sidetracked by vaccines and accidents, that the Lord used to give them purpose and to bring glory to His Name.

So okay, James, you get my vote. Socialized Medicine is okay with me, now that we have talked it through. :-))

Have a great day, James,

Mark

 

 

 

 

 Hey,Mark 

 

Ya must have posted the wrong letter. The one you posted had not a word on anyone cured of cancer. Only one girl with Tourette syndrome that it said was better. The word Cancer only appeared once. Like I've told you before I have read every word of every link you have posted. In fact I read this one on another forum like website posted by someone like you and I've seen it posted on other web sites as well. Sometimes it is from thereflectionhouse sometimes it is a link to a different website. Same letter word for word every time.

 

 I was doing a little searching and found the same letter word for word (in your post said was written by 

Dr. Lawrence B. Palevsky, M.D., F.A.A.P.) but this one was written by Bette Dowdell. Strange to say the least.
http://www.healthiertalk.com/get-vaccinated-or-else-vendetta-agains...

Scientist have for many years told of the dangers of processed foods.

 I fully agree with you that wall street is making money off sick people. If they can afford insurance, great suck them dry, if not kick them to the curb and let them die.

IMO faith healers are doing the same thing.Think Benny Hinn.

 Bye Bye James



Mark Edward Kroger said:

Hi James,

I am not against providing for those that are less fortunate. I contribute to that all I can. I can see where hospitals are life savers for accident, injury, venom bites, parasites, etc. For me, I would like a catastrophic plan just in case I had an auto accident or something like that.

I am against our Wall Street led, government enforced, silencing of those who would teach us true health through nutrition and then equating health care with life long sickness control through profit oriented alchemy.

If you opened that paper, you would have seen where a doctor is curing incurable cancers through nutrition and they are doing their best to silence him because it would detract from Wall Street's bottom line.

This not about you or me or who can win a verbal sparring match. It's about Wall Street equating sick and dying people as Wall Street bottom line.

But there is another side to this. When the Lord saved me, I asked Him to save my family and to keep them from sickness and trouble. His answer was, "And how would I do that?"

Very few people wake up and say, "The third thing on my list today, is to receive Christ." For most of us, it was, "Help me, Jesus!" So while Satan is using the greed factor to entice, the Lord is using it to bring glory to His Name.

I work for the Lord out of gratitude for what He used others to do for me all my life and I also am looking forward to the rewards-the eternal dividends, a small investment here will reap.

It is impossible to have a utopian concept come to life in fallen man. The overriding factors of my fallen nature are lust and pride. They can be mixed in varying ways>selfishness, jealousy, etc. My natural man says, "I am the center of all things."

Scripture teaches we wrestle not with flesh and blood, so I see that Satan and his emerssaries tempt my natural man to distort that which sounded good on paper.

Socialism in practice says, "What's yours is mine." An agape spirit says, "What's mine is yours."

Satan's goal on earth is not to build a utopia. It is to draw men away from Christ.

"There is only one life and it will soon be past. Only what's done by, for and through the Lord Jesus Christ will last."

When I die, no one will ask me if I voted for Socialized Medicine. The only question that will be asked is, "Did you receive Christ as Savior? What did you do with Christ?

I will continue to study health. I bought an exercise machine for my lower back, I will continue to use it. But those things are temporal. When I die, I will leave this body here.

I have read wonderful stories about people whose lives were sidetracked by vaccines and accidents, that the Lord used to give them purpose and to bring glory to His Name.

So okay, James, you get my vote. Socialized Medicine is okay with me, now that we have talked it through. :-))

Have a great day, James,

Mark

 

 

 

 

Hi Juanita,

Hope all is well with you and family.

 Simplicity, okay I can do that.  I have faith in mankind. IMO, it is better to get up and make this a better world over praying for a better world. That's as simple as I can make it. 

 

 

Juanita said:

I, like to frame thoughts in a way that dives down to simplicity.

 

I think James' conversation boils down to two questions...

 

Who (what) is in the center and who do we serve?

 

How we answer those questions determine everything about the lives we live and the society we build, these determine our philosophy of life.   There are of course, overlaps in philosophies - but at some root level:  you can't have it both ways.

 

We can either serve God.

 

Or man (if I serve myself, I am in this camp.)

 

The US is migrating toward a human centric way of life.   If you are in that camp, you should be delighted with the philosophy, the outcome is also, and unfortunately visible.   :-)

Hi James,

Thanks for the reply. If you look closely at the paper Nutrition and Cancer, it is in 4 sections. The first is alternative cancer treatment, the second is processed food and the third is vaccines from Dr. Lawrence B. Palevsky, M.D., F.A.A.P. and the last is on vaccines from from Bette Dowell.

Three of them came from Dr. Mercola's website and one of them came from Healthier Talk.

I will share with you my reason for my posts, James. I am not trying to convince you of anything. I like you, I pray for you, but until the Lord changes you, you are not interested in anything but a verbal sparring match. That's okay, because it keeps me on my toes and it gets us all to thinking.

My real reason is someone might be reading, that is interested and could use the information. I want to share and be a help where I can. Someone taught me and I used the intelligence God gave me to apply it. Someone else might be able to do the same thing.

Life is choice, James. I reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of every choice I make. So it is with each of us. Some things I choose to ignore and some things I choose to apply. Sometimes I get it wrong. But I am interested in growing. I am not interested in one upping my neighbor or making fun of another.

I shared Dr. Kelly's cancer cure success with two professors at work. Both opted for chemo and died. My long time neighbor of a former residence died a horrible chemo/radiation/scapel death.  The whole time he was parroting the pharma cheerleaders.

But far more important, is did they receive Christ before they died? I believe they all three did. So I will see them again.

I wish I could have received Christ earlier in life. But He stayed at it and I finally got it. I pray the same for you.

Have a great day, James,

Mark

 


James said:

 Hey,Mark 

 

Ya must have posted the wrong letter. The one you posted had not a word on anyone cured of cancer. Only one girl with Tourette syndrome that it said was better. The word Cancer only appeared once. Like I've told you before I have read every word of every link you have posted. In fact I read this one on another forum like website posted by someone like you and I've seen it posted on other web sites as well. Sometimes it is from thereflectionhouse sometimes it is a link to a different website. Same letter word for word every time.

 

 I was doing a little searching and found the same letter word for word (in your post said was written by 

Dr. Lawrence B. Palevsky, M.D., F.A.A.P.) but this one was written by Bette Dowdell. Strange to say the least.
http://www.healthiertalk.com/get-vaccinated-or-else-vendetta-agains...

Scientist have for many years told of the dangers of processed foods.

 I fully agree with you that wall street is making money off sick people. If they can afford insurance, great suck them dry, if not kick them to the curb and let them die.

IMO faith healers are doing the same thing.Think Benny Hinn.

 Bye Bye James



Mark Edward Kroger said:

Hi James,

I am not against providing for those that are less fortunate. I contribute to that all I can. I can see where hospitals are life savers for accident, injury, venom bites, parasites, etc. For me, I would like a catastrophic plan just in case I had an auto accident or something like that.

I am against our Wall Street led, government enforced, silencing of those who would teach us true health through nutrition and then equating health care with life long sickness control through profit oriented alchemy.

If you opened that paper, you would have seen where a doctor is curing incurable cancers through nutrition and they are doing their best to silence him because it would detract from Wall Street's bottom line.

This not about you or me or who can win a verbal sparring match. It's about Wall Street equating sick and dying people as Wall Street bottom line.

But there is another side to this. When the Lord saved me, I asked Him to save my family and to keep them from sickness and trouble. His answer was, "And how would I do that?"

Very few people wake up and say, "The third thing on my list today, is to receive Christ." For most of us, it was, "Help me, Jesus!" So while Satan is using the greed factor to entice, the Lord is using it to bring glory to His Name.

I work for the Lord out of gratitude for what He used others to do for me all my life and I also am looking forward to the rewards-the eternal dividends, a small investment here will reap.

It is impossible to have a utopian concept come to life in fallen man. The overriding factors of my fallen nature are lust and pride. They can be mixed in varying ways>selfishness, jealousy, etc. My natural man says, "I am the center of all things."

Scripture teaches we wrestle not with flesh and blood, so I see that Satan and his emerssaries tempt my natural man to distort that which sounded good on paper.

Socialism in practice says, "What's yours is mine." An agape spirit says, "What's mine is yours."

Satan's goal on earth is not to build a utopia. It is to draw men away from Christ.

"There is only one life and it will soon be past. Only what's done by, for and through the Lord Jesus Christ will last."

When I die, no one will ask me if I voted for Socialized Medicine. The only question that will be asked is, "Did you receive Christ as Savior? What did you do with Christ?

I will continue to study health. I bought an exercise machine for my lower back, I will continue to use it. But those things are temporal. When I die, I will leave this body here.

I have read wonderful stories about people whose lives were sidetracked by vaccines and accidents, that the Lord used to give them purpose and to bring glory to His Name.

So okay, James, you get my vote. Socialized Medicine is okay with me, now that we have talked it through. :-))

Have a great day, James,

Mark

 

 

 

 

James,

 

You said 'Simplicity, okay I can do that.  I have faith in mankind. IMO, it is better to get up and make this a better world over praying for a better world. That's as simple as I can make it.'

 

Your simplicity is based on a lie, or a complete misunderstanding of our Faith.   Read James and learn about the evidence of faith in a Christ follower's life (it is works, works aimed at serving others).  This tactic is called 'straw mannning' where you make a comparison between two choices, where the one choice you don't prefer you set up an erroneous negative comparison.  In this case, you have the noble faith in mankind, which somehow naturally enables you to 'get up and make this a better world' against a faith in Christ that, by your straw man tactic, renders you impotent in this world, just sitting around and praying the world gets better.

 

Do you believe Christ called us to pray for a better world and leave it at that?  You love your straw man,  and it is a typical tactic of people shielding themselves from Truth, equating qualities to Christ and to our Faith which don't exist.  You will never find the Truth of the Word so long as you continue to create your own version of what you THINK our faith is and who you THINK Christ is.  We are commanded to have faith, but faith without works is an empty gesture, as surely as works without faith is simply trying to 'buy' yourself to heaven.  And faith without LOVE is also meaningless (read 1 Corinthians).  We are instructed to love the Lord our God with all our hearts, which means we will follow his way, and love one another as we love ourselves, which means we are instructed to serve, serving from love, that leads to faith, that leads to works.

There are 'mystical' Christians who have taken the pray for a better world approach, but they are just as wrong about what Christ commands us to do as you are.  We, as Christians, are expected to be the salt and light of the earth, through our doing, our SERVICE to others, and not through prayer. 

You compare the humanistic world view of 'putting my faith in mankind' to some mystical, feckless religion that believes in waiting for God to do all the work.  Whatever that religion is, I don't subscribe to it.   Now answer the question- do you serve man or do you serve God?  If you serve Man, what compels you to serve man?  Perhaps you should read Ecclesiastes to learn what happens to man who works without God as his root.

Christians would be asked by Christ...why are you not taking care of yourselves?  Why are you relying on this world to heal your sick, raise your children, feed you, clothe you?  Why have you not built my kingdom where Christians live together in fellowship, the all-encompassing Christ life where Christians live amongst the lost, serve the needy, and take care of their own?  Christians in America are already endicted for turning away from Christ's message and the messages of the apostles that received more knowledge from the Holy Spirit.


The solution for a Christ follower is to NOT be dependent on the world, but to be the vital light of the world.  Christ would not vote for healthcare.  He would ask why Christians haven't provided for themselves and for the needy around them.
James said:

Hey Freedomist,

 

Spot on,   How would Jesus vote on national healthcare hmm? IMO (in my opinion) Jesus would fully support  a healthcare plan that covered everyone.

  Jesus healed hundreds of people who were poor and suffering. Whether the people believed in Him or not, Jesus had no condition to healing someone who was sick.

Freedomist said:

How did this thread turn into a debate about present-day healthcare?  I thought it was about James' assumption that Jesus was a socialist.


James said:

Hi Juanita,

Hope all is well with you and family.

 Simplicity, okay I can do that.  I have faith in mankind. IMO, it is better to get up and make this a better world over praying for a better world. That's as simple as I can make it. 

 

 

----Thanks, James.   We are doing well.   Hope the same for you.

 

If you can't see God, and it seems that is where you are...  yes, that would be a noble thought - get up and make the world a better place.

 

If you know God, and I do, that plan for 'the world' is so futile from my POV.   I see clearly that we all have chosen to do some right and some wrong, including me.   So, using 'root cause analysis' - our base is flawed.  It is unlikely that anything sound will be built on a flawed base.    :-) 

 Jesus doesn't 'reform' us.   He lives his life through us.   And, yes, I have seen things improve for people, circumstances, etc. through this.   If we can just get past the 'religion' phase, and into the life through Christ era, we'll be doing lots better.    

 

 I serve my wife,kids first then my extended family.Next would be my community and lastly myself.

 

 In no way do I serve any man made gods. 

 

Like you I was born an atheist. I did not stay that way as my parents are devoted Christians. I went to church at least once a week.Did Bible study for years. I have read the whole bible more then a few times using different versions. 

 

I had to laugh at your "You will never find the Truth of the Word so long as you continue to create your own version of what you THINK our faith is and who you THINK Christ is." line.

  All Christians do that. Other wise there would not be hundreds of different Christian denominations. Every Christian looks for a church that fits their own version of what they think faith is and what Jesus wants them to do.

; Should women cover their heads? More then one Christian denomination thinks so. What about a women place in the church? Again this is different in different Christian denominations. Why? What about the way Christians should dress? again it's the same.It depends on what your own version is.

 

 I'm done for the day, James

 


Freedomist said:

James,

 

You said 'Simplicity, okay I can do that.  I have faith in mankind. IMO, it is better to get up and make this a better world over praying for a better world. That's as simple as I can make it.'

 

Your simplicity is based on a lie, or a complete misunderstanding of our Faith.   Read James and learn about the evidence of faith in a Christ follower's life (it is works, works aimed at serving others).  This tactic is called 'straw mannning' where you make a comparison between two choices, where the one choice you don't prefer you set up an erroneous negative comparison.  In this case, you have the noble faith in mankind, which somehow naturally enables you to 'get up and make this a better world' against a faith in Christ that, by your straw man tactic, renders you impotent in this world, just sitting around and praying the world gets better.

 

Do you believe Christ called us to pray for a better world and leave it at that?  You love your straw man,  and it is a typical tactic of people shielding themselves from Truth, equating qualities to Christ and to our Faith which don't exist.  You will never find the Truth of the Word so long as you continue to create your own version of what you THINK our faith is and who you THINK Christ is.  We are commanded to have faith, but faith without works is an empty gesture, as surely as works without faith is simply trying to 'buy' yourself to heaven.  And faith without LOVE is also meaningless (read 1 Corinthians).  We are instructed to love the Lord our God with all our hearts, which means we will follow his way, and love one another as we love ourselves, which means we are instructed to serve, serving from love, that leads to faith, that leads to works.

There are 'mystical' Christians who have taken the pray for a better world approach, but they are just as wrong about what Christ commands us to do as you are.  We, as Christians, are expected to be the salt and light of the earth, through our doing, our SERVICE to others, and not through prayer. 

You compare the humanistic world view of 'putting my faith in mankind' to some mystical, feckless religion that believes in waiting for God to do all the work.  Whatever that religion is, I don't subscribe to it.   Now answer the question- do you serve man or do you serve God?  If you serve Man, what compels you to serve man?  Perhaps you should read Ecclesiastes to learn what happens to man who works without God as his root.

Hi James,

I like Paul's Straw Man analogy. I grew up watching the love of Christ in action. From a local Methodist Church to a group of Christians at a local fire department that made a family of 14 kids' life far more bearable and enjoyable. If we took a poll of missions like World Vision on how many were Christians and how many were atheists that were supporting it, the straw man would come to the surface.

Juanita puts in a lot of work, time and money to maintain this Christian Forum. Faith in action. She prays over our bickering [I feel her prayers working on me, :-))] A wonderful example of faith in action and love of Christ in action.

God doesn't miss a thing. He won't ask us what we did, He already knows. And we cannot outgive God. I like the way William Tyndale put it in God's Outlaw, "We can tell a tree by its fruit. The fruit doesn't make the tree, the tree makes the fruit."

But having said that James, I spent 42 years producing rotten fruit. I am still flawed to the core. The Lord knew my date and He knows yours.

But see how much good you are doing us? Thank you. I mean that. You make us think, share and learn from each other.

Juanita was right. An atheist at a Christian Website makes Christians grow. Thanks James.

Your friend,

Mark

 

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"A "Church" House, Building, Temple, etc. is the House of the Lord, it is a place we come…"
Jun 11, 2019
James Bartlett liked Juanita's discussion Preface - The Seed 2019 Pre-Launch
Jun 11, 2019
James Bartlett joined Juanita's group
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2019 Review of The Seed - Pre-Publication

People are confused.   We know how to 'do church'.  Church happens every Sunday morning.   How do…See More
Jun 11, 2019
James Bartlett and Robert H Patrick are now friends
Jun 11, 2019
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Jun 8, 2019
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2019 Review of The Seed - Pre-Publication

People are confused.   We know how to 'do church'.  Church happens every Sunday morning.   How do…See More
Jun 8, 2019

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