Creating a Learning Network for Kingdom Builders!
The golden era is coming to a close. I think we are all aware of that. Our nation has been in moral decline for years and our economic situation is now following those footsteps. Capitalism can only exist when a group of individuals decide that love is the foundation that should guide our actions. Love is a reality that can only be known through faith in Jesus Christ.
I am referring to the love of the individual which does not require the government to force you to let go of your money and then redistribute it to someone who is less fortunate. Once a people begin to rely on the government to do that which the individual should do on a voluntary basis, corruption comes in and eventually causes the whole system to collapse. The love of many grow cold in the process because the government is unable to love since it is not a person. The government cannot be filled with the Holy Spirit.
The rich simply find ways to protect/hide their money while the less fortunate seek way to get that money from the rich by means of the government. When everyone becomes selfish and driven by selfish interest, love is snuffed out and love grows cold which leads to an abundance of evil on a macro scale by government which comes to see itself as a type of god for society.
Christians place our faith in Jesus Christ. When we do that we come to know the love of God by faith through the Holy Spirit. Our God who is loves is the one who should drive our actions in this world. As the Bible says, "For it is God who works within both to will and to do of His good pleasure!"
Well said for a person who in my judgement must be an atheist. Atheist always want to pay people to care for someone else rather than do it themselves.
Christians in large numbers go into undeveloped countries and start hospitals and care for the sick and needy. You may be surprised to learn this but it is all done on a voluntary basis by people in the church. The government is never involved in all these missions that Christians have set up all over the world. Christians don't need the government in the same way Atheists do. Christians rely on love and service.
Atheists and secularist rely on force and redistribution because they don't believe in the reality of love and are too selfish to get out there and help others out in a consistent manner. Love is from God and secularists lack this love which is why they think everyone else is selfish.
Securalism always leads to bankruptcy. It has to. You can not pay people to love. Love is from God so pure secularism will always fail! I mean always!!! You can't buy love and that is where all secularist go wrong.
The real problem is the moral decay of our country. My dentist had a free clinic on Saturday. He was a strong Christian man. My doctor who was also a Christian went to Africa every ten years and served for an entire year free of charge. You just don't know or understand love.
I personally don't believe government should do anything on the social side of things. When you have government take over, people give up their rights and freedoms to another body of people who then force them to act in a certain way. Medicare is going bankrupt. Social Security is going bankrupt. In fact, there isn't a government program that isn't going bankrupt. The biggest liberal in the history of America is now in office and he is projecting a 10 trillion deficit alone.
The French, Spain and Italy do not provide for their own defense. In addition, their hospitals are not close to the quality of care that you get in America. In fact, we always get horror stories coming out of France as well as Great Britain.
The bottom line is that when you give the government your rights and freedoms, you are really entering into tyranny. All secularist support tyranny because they all demand a secular government. Christians don't want a powerful government. We want a benevolent people who sees it their responsibility to take care of their neighbor. That has been the secret of America's success.
Denise, there is no love in government. Nor can there be. The bigger government gets the more corrupt it becomes. You are arguing for corruption by pushing big government. Christians don't believe that power should be centralized. We believe that God works through the individual and brings people together to serve the interest of their neighbors.
Your vision of society is secularism and secularism just doesn't work. It hasn't work in Russia, it doesn't work in China, and yes, it doesn't work in France or Spain. It never has and never will. The missing ingredient is the love of God who works through the individual.
The Bible does not argue that Christians should depend on the government to provide for their needs. The Bible says that we are to rely on God and His people. A secular government can never meet the needs of the people because it cannot love.
In other words Denise, you are saying the love doesn't work. This is the secular argument. Love is not real nor a reality. Everyone is selfish so you have to have the government force people to part with their money.
Christians just reject your way of thinking and always will. It is unbiblical and denies the power of God that works in the lives of those who love Him.
I appreciate your honest response. It shows you are not a Christian nor a person who longs for the return of Christ. You don't believe in love and you don't believe that people can live above their selfishness. These are all the tenants of Atheism.
I have good news for you though. God has given us the power through faith in Christ to share His love with the world!! Christians have been doing this before there were any hospitals or universities. In fact, we built most of the modern world that you see. Chrisians have been doing this without the government's direct assistance for 2000 years.
You stated that Spain, France and Italy are all Christian countries. They really are Catholic countries that only pay lip service to the Bible when it is convient. While I believe that many of them are Christians, I also know that many of them have bought into secularism due to indoctrination and discrimination against Biblical values.
The funny thing is that some Christians think it is Christian to give up their Christian responsibilities to the government. It clearly is not in the Scripture and flows out of a loveless vision of the world. France is now known for its philosophical rejection of Biblical revelation. Evangelicals are discriminated against their strongly and intentionally at this time. I would hardly call it the government that is Bible friendly. If a Christian thinks they can stop caring for the poor, sick and needy in this world and give this to the government, they clearly have rejected Biblical truth for their life.